Nit Picket Podcast #59, Alice In Wonderland/Brooklyn's Finest/Dead Snow

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Through the looking glass. Nit Picket Podcast #59.
I'd apologize to all of our listeners for continuing to discuss Twilight at such great length except that resisting the Edward/Jacob debate is futile. Even those who claim to despise both secretly have their pick. Whether we like it or not the Cullens are here to stay.
This week Aaron and I discuss the latest Johnny Depp and Tim Burton collaboration, Alice in Wonderland. We express our love of Nazi zombies in the Norwegian splatter fest, Dead Snow, and we figure out whether Richard Gere is a convincing drunk in Brooklyn's Finest. In the world of trailers we talk about the 3D nerdgasm that is Tron Legacy, and we get girly to discuss the latest in the Twilight saga, Eclipse.
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Hey guys,
I guess we just watch two different episodes of LOST every week, lol.
Same thing with Alice in Wonderland. I thought it was Tim Burton's second best after scissorhands. I would say Sweeny Todd was his worst.
I do enjoy the longer versions, but I enjoy the episodes more when something new is thrown into the mix like top 5s or the QandA. So if you guys can keep mixing in some new stuff every once in a while that would keep the structure of the show fresh.
Thanks
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Thanks for the the input, Omar. We always love some opposition and we seriously appreciate your opinion. The more feedback the better. Thanks, again.
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I think Eclipse will be the Wendy and Lucy of vampire romance movies. Anyways, I have always kind of liked Antoine Fuqua as a great B-action movies and I think that Tears of the Sun, along with Jean-Francois Richet's Assault on Precinct 13 are the two best B-action movies of the 2000s. I hated Charlie and the Chocolate Factory was quite shitty and I think it was Depp's worst performance. I really cannot wait to hear your thoughts on A Prophet, it's the one to watch immediately along with Green Zone.
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Sorry, I made a mistake. I meant that I hated Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, and thought it was quite shitty. It happened because I typed it on an iPod.
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To be completely honest, I've never actually seen ASSAULT ON PRECINCT 13 so I'll definitely have to add it to my queue. Thanks for the recommendation.
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Oof. Alice was just not my movie. If all my friends weren't not super excited for it I would have never gone. And maybe I would have been better for that. Seriously, I am one of like probably 5 girls in the world in that Johnny Depp is not super charming.
Lost: Really? I feel like it's not the best season ever but I feel like it's still enjoyable. And Season 3 was not that great. I do enjoy the sideways world (and Ben did not impregnate Rousseau but another frenchman Robert) but yeah Alex is a little random. Like how did Rousseau ended up there? But then again Lost has always been like "ALL THESE CHARACTERS ARE CONNECTED!!!!" so it's not surprising. However, I just hope that these sideflashways will be of some relevance in the future. And I want Desmond.
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Agreed. LOST is definitely enjoyable and even when Aaron or I complain I think we're both doing it because we love the show so much. Also, Desmond is by far one of my favorite characters. He's a pro. "See you in another life, brother."
Thanks for the listening.
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Hey guys. Great podcast! Totally felt the way you did about ALICE. Talk about a disappointment. The last fight sequence was extra terrible for me because I saw it in a tiny theater, so it felt smaller and less epic than I'm sure Tim Burton was hoping for. I also hated that dance sequence. It was so weird and didn't fit the story at all. Also, TRON LEGACY looks so good. I saw that trailer before ALICE and wanted to see that movie even more now. I had that movie in my #9 spot on my top 10 most anticipated of 2010, but after that trailer it immediately jumped up to the top 5. Anyway, great episode. Catch you guys next week.
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I actually did check out THE MESSENGER last weekend and I must say it is a pretty solid movie.
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I definitely disagree with you guys on the John Hughes tribute. It was unnecessary and way too long. It's kind of strange too because Hughes has NEVER been nominated for an Oscar (not even) in his entire career. Plus far more important and far more influential artists have died and they didn't receive as long and as elaborate tributes (I remember Stanley Kubrick, who did receive a solo tribute reel, didn't have actors from his movies say a few words and did not have his widow and his children in the audience). With all due respect to his fans, there is something wrong when the writer of "Baby's Day Out" gets a far longer tribute than the man who co-wrote "8 1/2". It's very fucking retarded, if you ask me.
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I believe Hughes deserves such a tribute BECAUSE of the fact he was never honored by the Oscars. You mention "Baby's Day Out" which may be lame but you're also leaving out the fact that so many of the films he directed (not to mention tons he only wrote. NATIONAL LAMPOONS VACATION, PRETTY IN PINK) practically define the 80's, the American high school experience and are some of the most universally loved movies of just about ANYONE living the United States. SIXTEEN CANDLES, THE BREAKFAST CLUB, FERRIS BUELLER'S DAY OFF, PLANES TRAINS AND AUTOMOBILES, WEIRD SCIENCE aren't movies that ever won Oscar attention but they're classics in their own right and to ignore them would be shortsighted and snobbish. Did Kubrick deserve an Oscar tribue? Absolutely. He directed some of the finest films I've ever seen. However, few directors (not even Kubrick) are as universally loved and cherished as John Hughes. He deserved some Oscar love.
Thanks for listening.
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I don't deny his place in film. I don't deny that he has touched a generation of moviegoers with his films. But that does NOT justify the extended and elaborate tribute to him at the Oscars. I'm sorry. It was sickening because Truffaut, Bergman, Fellini, Kubrick, Antonioni, Rohmer, etc. the list goes on and on. These guys are objectively superior filmmakers and whose influence are far more significant and more affecting that John Hughes' entire filmography. I admit, I'm not a Hughes fan. I've only seen 3 of his works: "Sixteen Candles" which I thought was just okay, "Uncle Buck" which I thought was just meh and "Curly Sue" which I hated. I've also seen the first half hour of "Weird Science" and I changed the channel because I got annoyed by the characters. I've also seen some of his written works like the "Home Alone" movies but I grew up and eventually come to realize that they suck. And based on the clips I've seen of other Hughes' work, I'm not in a hurry to see them because they look....well, dated. You argue that John Hughes should be honored because he's popular with movie audiences. Well, Michael Bay is popular with movie audiences. Should he be given a tribute? What about Brett Ratner? What about Chris Columbus? What about McG? All their films are popular with audiences and audiences love their work. Do we pay tribute to them while we relegate Lauren Bacall, Roger Corman and Gordon Willis is a SEPERATE ceremony? HELL, NO! Speaking of them, that's another thing that totally irks me about the John Hughes tribute. These three Honorary Awardees were not given their due at the ceremony. I would've MUCH rather have listened to Lauren Bacall's or Roger Corman's acceptance speeches than Judd Nelson or Macaulay Culkin. Did John Hughes deserve a tribute? ABSOLUTELY! But in the In Memoriam reel NOT as a seperate tribute. I also think you're overstating John Hughes' popularity and influence quite a bit. Based on my experience, mostly white middle-class Americans who were teenagers/early-20's during the 1980's love his work. At best, he is a minor cult-ish filmmaker.
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john hughes = kurt cobain. Not the most critically acclaimed career outside a couple hits...But they DEFINED AND NEARLY ORIGINATED A GENRE. Not saying Kubrick did not, but I really think John Hughes is appreciated EXACTLY as much as he deserves to be. Ever see a john hughes movie you didn't at least like a little bit or think was funny? I didn't think so.
when i heard about dead snow, i couldn't help but think about sxephil from youtube...Zombie nazi robots or something like that...He isn't far off!
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I said I hated "Curly Sue". And I thought that "Sixteen Candles" was just okay. I've loved or at least admired everything Stanley Kubrick has ever done. I've seen most of his films more than once. HE'S far more influential and important than John Hughes ever was. As far as John Hughes movies go, I think "The 400 Blows" was a far affecting film on teen angst. And the TV show "Freaks and Geeks" did what John Hughes tried to do but I felt it did it a hell of a better. So, no, John Hughes, with all due respect, did not deserve a tribute that long and that elaborate at the Oscars. Maybe if it was the People's Choice Awards or the MTV Movie Awards, I would understand that. But the Oscars? Hell, no.
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Alice In Wonderland - it is another digital 3D movie after Avatar. Being Johnny Depp as a leading man, there are lots of expectations. the movies is mesh-up of Lewis Carroll’s Alice in Wonderland. But i agree with the above podcast, it is really not as good as his previous work.
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